There are various things that I didnt even know existed when I tried to write up the 5 collaboration invitations around the world. If Grameen takes one of their editors to my first effort, it can be 10 times better

first I didnt know over 100 people from congress had written to the world bank asking for 200 million dollars to promote collaboration centres of excellence in MFI world (pdf attached not to be circulated openly until public)

second I didnt have the Q&A of Dr Yunus from his world affairs council talk in california in november

Jane Wales:

Dr Yunus- because you’re the world’s best problem solver I have ever known , I am going to ask you about some of the things that are in the plate of the next president  of the united states. He will come in and he will face  

• poverty including new poverty at home and abroad 
• the employment crisis
• the need to provide quality education for all
• the need to provide affordable healthcare
• post-conflict reconstruction and reconciliation 

if were you advising the new president, would you urge him to take an integrated approach or to deal with each independently?

Muhammad Yunus

well I can only tell him of my way at looking at it –first of all  if he wants to be serious about poverty – after all, the president of US is de facto the president of the world, so what he does impacts the whole world. So when he talka about poverty he provides the leadership that others take.

Now we have the millennium goals which are a wonderful set of goals which inspire all the world but were unfortunately derailed by other things that came up so first of all restore total support for the millennium development goals and withdraw from other stuff united states got involved in such as war on terror,

so concentrate on the one of  making sure we achieve the millennium goals, achieve them 100% this will be a tremendous achievement for the whole world that we have done something its not some of UN goal setting and forgetting, this is a real goal and a realty to celebrate having done it

and then for this president the best thing is to show total commitment of ending poverty set a new date when the world can be at zero poverty – we have 2015 at halve poverty so why don't we set the next goal zero poverty so that we know this is the direction we need to take,

when we set the date everything else will fall into place:

how do you measure, how do you do it there are several things that will play an important part

1 microcredit   because it has shown its effectiveness in unleashing the capacity of people

2 technology how to bring technology  to the poorest people so that they can change their whole world

3 healthcare

so its nothing separated, its integrated but you cant have one organisation doing everything, you need several organisations but focused so that everything is achieving the same goal to lift the person

and as the president is declaring the date for zero poverty in the whole world at the same time encourage the united states to set their date when their city be zero poverty when their county gets to zero poverty  - if someone says well we have no poverty how do you know if you have poverty or not –its very simple the first question I ask is do you have a welfare program, a welfare department? As long as you have a welfare department you have poverty, otherwise why do you have it, poverty means that nobody is on welfare tat is  clear sign so you have to close down your welfare department, find something else for those people to do, so all the related things you have to welfare you close down as you have crossed that level and you are never going back- city by city, county by county, state by state, it can be done and it will encourage everyone else –

that state can do it, we can do it

this is the way to go, so poverty will be the challenge –and once you have solved poverty other solutions come right away, environment will come right away- like in the case of bangladesh environment and our survival is an integrated problem, we are the ones on the front line – eliminated by global climate change because of our flat country, so for us its such an important issue

the united states missed the whole leadership on the global warming issue, never got to the Kyoto protocol and as a result the whole world got derailed,  ..so now is the chance to go back to preparing for the 2012 UN binding resolution .. that way you n=know where you are

the moment government becomes serious , technology starts going in, its not a question of it cant be done , simply we have to make a serious commitment that we will do it-the moment we make the serious commitment, technologies will come , how do we replace the things that are causing the problem, replacing them with new technology without harming anyone in any way

the present way of living life in a way which might enjoy life today but may be harming someone else’s life somewhere  on the planet, its not a good feeling: I am doing something that puts someone else life at stake because of the way I do things – so the basic principle we should all adopt, every child should be taught, every family be taught my way of living should not harm anyone else  , and that’s how I would like to live

its possible once you make that commitment all the environmental problems will be solved

third I was not aware that http://microenergycredits.com aimed to extend its mobile community accounting partnerships with MFIs in making a market of 250 million zero-carbon households to other millennium goals where rewards could be given to poor communities that innovate replication's way http://fieldsupportlwa.org/energylinks/microenergycredits

I expect that the various ways people are building around dr yunus and bangladesh and kenya as a collaboration centres of gravity for sustainability world are far more than those I have accidentally heard about. In 2009's yes we can year,  he has become the person my father's 1984 script on the future of human sustainability anticipated cheerleading collaboration economics world

Our 1984 scenario of an internetworking world

Changing communications, and what makes people distant, bossy, etc

Changing national politics

Changing economics

Changing employment

Changing education

chris macrae

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previously
25/12/08, Mostofa Zaman,  wrote:

From: Mostofa Zaman,
Subject:  dhaka report
To: "Christopher Macrae" <chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Thursday, 25 December, 2008, 3:59 AM

I will report you on my works in Dhaka on Sunday.  I will make print the first draft of your 30 page booklet and pass to Lamiya and Yunus I will meet the Grameen fish guys in 3 days and will introduce with Jerry and you.

Jerry

a few mindset-destabilising introductions before I'd want to discuss the future of infotech

1 When Dr Yunus gave the following speech nov 08 at a glasgow uni - one of the audience was - scotland's wealthiest businessman - he is reputed to have stood up and said the least we can do to honor you muhammad yunus is to start some action projects - the vice chancellor then committed to a micro grameen bank for glaswegians some of whom come from 3 generations of welfare - student exchange schemes and a yunus innovation lab at glasgow university are two of the other early consequences to watch out for- if it wasnt so dismally serious after the meltdown of wall street i'd crack up with laughter whenever I hear the word entrepreneur being used by big corporate people- the whole study of entrepreneurship was designed round open systems questioning begun late 1700s by scots (including the 1843 founder of The Economist) and french who wanted to take down english empire systems so that people and communities could be free and happy to be productive and innovative to their hearts content -true entrepreneurs always map with the transparency and openness of microeconomics -knowing, as my father wrote in 1984 in The Economist, that as the mass media age compounded macroeconomics become apalling political chicanery

2 as a teenager infotech empowered going to the moon - bit for collaboration bit man and computing has never been so collaboratively teamworked and productive since -its very dismal compared with what computer learning networking trials that I worked on 1973-1976 in the UK National Dev program discovered could have been and which dad I wrote up in time for 1984 http://www.normanmacrae.com/netfuture.html dad had also surveyed silicon valley at its birth for The Economist- its very sad what compounded compared with what venture capitalism could have been -this intro is needed because the paper you sent me jerry isnt framed (doesnt use the lingo the q&a the anything I can find ) for micro people like me to read. It seems written for big managers speak

your last paragraph says the purpose of a business organization is to make profit; even if I didn’t try to champion dr yunus work then unlike macro-Big Brother milton friedman those of us media people who transparently map goodwill true compound/impacts of economics expomentials define the purpose of a business has = to get communally better at its unique purpose while entrepreneurially validating that purpose is in demand by sustaining enough positive cashflow to stay independent and reward long-term investors (who may have been the community that first pioneered the service but whomever they are there needs to be transparency around how much they deserve to take out as opposed to how much goes back into the societies most involved in the impacts of the business on people’s working lives, environmental resources, where the knowledge connects other knowledge etc) - i map economics of all free markets aroubnd a 10-win model based around compounding goodwill and there is no free market economics practice as originally defined by adam smith  unless people mediate free speech around this model

the topic of what adam smith meant to be free markets is nicely celebrated in last month's glasgow speech. Of course, you can do both types of businesses. Making money through responsible profit-maximizing businesses could be the means, while using that money for social businesses could be the exciting end.

The solutions to many of our world’s pressing problems could be accelerated through the creation of social businesses.

It is up to you to make it happen.

 If you choose this path, paying attention to your conscience and to human sympathy as well as to the design for wealth, you will be the true economic person Adam Smith had in mind.

his talks show that 2 opposite info tech sectors are appreoaching fusion- those whose business models are to capture your work so you are dependent on their system eg led by Microsoft Capitalism and those whose model is the opposite; I call McNeally complex to say the least because he is also quite capable of defending pharma by saying we need large investments in breakthrough stuff; I dont disagree with investment paradox but I dont accept big pharma as a good example of rewarding investment

(arguably if 2 people needed to be locked away in a room for a day to see if their life's flows around ICT have a match it would be yunus and mcnealy as far as my limted information on who moves where infotech goes - perhaps others could vote for what odd couple they would dream of connecting so ict did its best for empowering people instead of its worst for powering over us)

the role of technology in all the crises, we who side with microentrepreneurs and yes we can obama networks are living through, seems to me to open up huge areas of debate but ones that the infotech nerds are by themselves least capable of hosting for humanity's sake and their role in big NW corporations has dismally black boxed; I am not sure if we know some peers who might want to make an email action learning group of where it could go

chris macrae

http://macrae.tv

Dear Friends of Micro/Community-Rising

Although its 18 minutes long this audio podast is worth every second imo

http://fieldsupportlwa.org/energylinks

It describes April Allderdice system being tested in Uganda with microcredit partner FINCA by http://microenergycredits.com This is the sort of example I hoped cgdev's tuesday title of metrics and micro was refering to. Let's map back the future's exponentials to today's community empowerment to see how we get a clean energy market of 250 million clean households carbon credited by whole truth community accounting from the grassroots up.

Most global carbon offset marketmakers like easy plays of monitoring a big facility and all its credits in one observation. So brilliantly MEC gives FINCA a mobile gadget to audit and aggregate individual households which end carbon use with solar and biogas. Energy is the only the first of a series of mobile aggregation credit markets that MEC expects to monitor in proving who is empowering millennium goals and who isn't - community by community which is deeply where all sustainability is won or lost .As Yes We Can trust Obama knows since his mother was a pioneer of microcredit in Indonesia and womens world banking

phew what simple exponentials maths can do! Ironically the previous evening cgdev meeting was all about exponentials. Both Einstein and Von Neumann worked very hard to map why neither accountant nor dev agency let alone economist 

http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12813430&mode=comment&intent=readBottom

is worth a bean if they separate global from being micro grounded.

2009 is probably sustainability's last crossroads for making that turn round as my dad first argued from his desk at The Economist in 1984 http://www.normanmacrae.com/netfuture.html 

 We are writing up a brochure mapping the 5 most brilliant end poverty collaboration netwrk invitations that Dhaka's Microeconomists has given the world in the last 30 years which I can post to you (if you like) at the same time as it goes to Dr Y. Ditto I will make a transcript of the above podcast over the weekend. ( -and oh yes the roots of MEC  are  Dhaka-inspired too.)

chris macrae http://egrameen.com  bethesda 301 881 1655 http://macrae.tv